This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences. One of the elements of the cultural difference between Europe and China is the importance that is given to relationships. In the West you would assume the importance to be the same, but there is a significant distinction. In China connections with the right people help you to get things done, to survive and to succeed.
Whereas in the West content is predominant, in China the way people interact with each other strongly influences the working environment. 'Face' and long-term effects are taken into consideration.
Valérie Hoeks (1982) studied Sinology at the Leiden University and has been active in China for over a decade as a traveller, a student and later as an entrepreneur. As soon as she set foot on Chinese soil she knew she would come back many times.
In 2010 Valérie co-founded China Inroads in collaboration with with her Dutch and Chinese business partner. China Inroads provides a strong foothold for innovative companies that want to expand their business to the Chinese market.
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Very impressive video. But if I were the presenter, I would focus my examples more on how exactly the cultural difference changed the way business works, rather than explain the stereotypes. The presenter shifts the topic a little bit.
"Chinese are extremely lazy" said no one ever lol. I don't know why she thought people would assume that. I thought a common understanding is that the Chinese are the most hardworking people in the world, or is that just a stereotype? I seriously doubt tho, working hard is such a huge part of their culture. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Sorry, isn't supposed about "Cultural difference in business"?.... Hum, something is missing here... You talked about your experience in China... What's that has to do with "Cultural difference in business"? In fact, you say nothing about Chinese culture, nor doing business in China as American, Canadian, Russian, etc.
Dear Columbia Southern University, you sent me here to learn something from this wonderful speech. I can admit to you... This is a "Bu*ll Sh*it" talk ... nothing to do with the title. I wasted 12 minutes and 17 second of my life for nothing.
She affected a superior air. When she was stereotyping Chinese, meanwhile she was stereotyping "businessman" as a group, perhaps even TEDx – "X". There are so many "typical Chinese" in China like she described – as many as those "typical westerner" in this world. I believe our users can learn much more from "The Travels of Marco Polo" than from this "well-educated" red, blonde, white, precious Sinology student Ms. Hoeks. :)
Without Valerie's travels to China, this TED talk would not have been created by her to share this information about the people of China and their culture. Thank you for your travels, sharing your experiences and insight into what you saw, how you lived and what you learned. I have always felt that the Chinese live in the moment, and deal with situations as they come. They are much more harmonized than we are in America. I am grateful to have the opportunity to listen to you talk about your experience and offer us encouragement to visit China ourselves. I would love to be among the people China someday to learn about their country, and their culture. Thank you, Valerie.
yes, I agree that relationship, actually I think sometimes also happen in Australia, to find a job or other help, while the traffic in Beijing is exactly what she said, but in many other cities like chengdu, its not the same as Beijing. and I don't think Chinese people are lazy, cos everything is more efficient than foreign like installing internet and transporting online shopping, only take 1 day sometimes
To be honest, I think it's a little sad because if you live in China, you /have/ to care about what other people think about you. Not saying that the culture doesn't have some great features, but it's hard for me to imagine not having that freedom.
Smooth running includes repressed society, what Chinese is. No conflict means never take responsibility or admitting a fault. She will Winn a lot of clients, prove her loyalty with this one sited presentation.
This presenter missed the whole point. Goodness gracious western people! This is culture which is most stubborn to change and almost impossible to evolve. How can one live according to saying of a man 2500 y ago? You must be mad....
She said that adressing the part of the audience with such preestablished views. fact is most foreign countries are not viewed favourably here. because we fear the unknown and tend to dismiss what we do not know. doesn't make china any lesser.
I have to say this one is not that good compared to the other TED talks I watched.
She thinks she grasps the most critical thing when dealing with Chinese but these are only on the surface. The most sophisticated ones are always subtle.
With regards to the loyalty of Chinese, it not only takes time but also efforts. You're more likely to earn others' loyalty if you agree on the basic core values while disagreeing on other less important issues.
Chill :) 12 minutes - of course it is not going to be comprehensive and extremely deep analysis of the culture of China. It encourages people to search further though, and is meant to introduce the subject on the basic level. Good talk.
ted talks??? more like bullshit talks!! Every person that gives this kind of talks, is always very excited and has lots of solutions for all the problems, worldwide, but then again they do not change anything in the World, they're just talking, to show off how "great" the are!
In business, socio-political interaction, building trust and respects are the most importance to avoid conflict. Unfortunately, many consumers took advantage of my kindest, so I cannot be a political leader or a business man.
Thank You for valuable video.
I don't agree that Chinese are loyal in business. I have an experience in doing business with them and I know that they are reckless. They sell the same product to our competitors ( And they tell us that they don't do that). Sometimes they copy our products and sell further So I think, the people are really nice but in business the don't understand normal, simple rules of fair business.
What I see is generalizing an entire country for the actions of just a few people . We have very corrupt people in Europe and America but that doesn't make all citizens in Europe or America bad people to do business with. On every continent in every governmental system or private corporation we deal with ethics and corruption; those are individual decisions to act in an unethical way but it does not define an entire society with a sweeping brush.
With hundreds of thousands of people in a relatively small space that organizational system would not work very well there. With the high population and hundreds of thousands of people it just simply is not possible with the volume of people. Hence, the people that push more people into the subway to get in. It is a real problem of the city and not a moral issue. If you have to use a subway out of necessity.....then you must deal with the overextended infrastructure . This is not a Chinese moral problem or a disrespect issue, this is a problem with infrastructure that is about to burst because it was not designed to handle the population . I don't know that I will be able to persuade you to see this through another lens, but I thought it important to try. Have a wonderful day .
It seems as if Valerie Hoeks is describing her experiences in China rather than discussing cultural differences in business. All the while she's trying to market China and change people's stereotypes about the country and it's citizens. It discusses almost no information about business other than she is a business partner with some associates in China. She gets off topic about sleeping in a random school for 3 minutes and then continues generalizing the citizens and daily life of the Chinese based off (I'm guessing) one or two visits to the country.
Josh, the concept of TEDx Talks is that people share knowledge by telling stories. I don´t have the feeling that Valerie gets off topic. She is following an agenda explaining topics which -in Valerie´s opinion- are important to Chinese people and she illustrating the topics with own experience. However, I enjoyed listening to her. Best OF
+Downtown Zen Magazine lv
It USED to be.
But since most of the hotels and casinos are owned by corporations (which is actually LESS honorably than the typical Mobster trying to go legit o_O), its basically Adult Disney Land now.
a wonderful speech, the speaker understands Chinese culture quite well! I hope that people under eastern and western cultural background can know more about each other and learn more from each other :)
I know 12 minutes is not very long, but this seems to have been more a short history of Valerie's travels rather than anything particularly meaningful about cultural differences in business. I would expect, perhaps wrongly, people to expect differences between the 'West' and China, and as a result to do research - it would have been more interesting to hear of Dutch-specific cultural norms which others in the West might not actually expect.
+abdullah nasher forEVER Chinese art is heavily influenced by tradition, so I'm not surprised you feel that way. I don't think that was the same kind of open mind that the speaker was trying to address though.
"our world", "their world", "they", "we", "Confucius is alive and kicking" etc...
It is hard to talk about cultural differences without ending up just saying general and shallow stuff, I can say I tried just as hard as the speaker did, and failed as miserably.
She drank the cool-aid and push the local concepts (mianzi, he, etc) when really they are universal, nothing special. China is, as any country, special and beautiful. And many country-side people are different from metropolitans, and developing countries have something that developed countries lost.
This lecture is stereotypical TED lecture,
+MMABeijing These concepts are being discussed on the 'face' level without really knowing what lies below. For instance, while face is universal, how is it different for Chinese than Westerners? What about that situation made the Chinese lose face - from their perspective? Why is it different than what a Westerner may experience? And, how did they actually fix it to save the sentiments of everyone involved? I think, just like when she said it was more interesting to stay in a college hostel than a hotel, describing and telling more of the story of why things happened the way they did so we can really empathize with each other would be more interesting.
I am glad you are explaining what is so unclear to so many North American and Europeans but seems obvious to me except for the concept of guilt. 面子 is supreme but many times and more so today like westerners how one is being perceived is more important than actions. If not caught all is permissible which is not very 孔夫子 like at all. But he said that the people will reflect the rulers so enough said there.
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